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Communications intercept. Transmission detected Mon 17th of Sep 2007 at 04:06 AM by GamiSB. Communique follows:
Escaped: i was just startign up the conversation since there was none lol
Escaped: lets just all chill
Phaydren: connection troubles havo
Havocide: Aye.
Phaydren: machines must be hitting the hotspots in the real, its getting harder to find a good jack in location
Michael1: It is really hard.
Stow: Just like last time...
Havocide: Aye, as before.
Orteko: KILL HER!!!
Orteko: lol
Phaydren: greetings retro
Stow: Brings to midn the cyclical nature of time.
Escaped: there should be a way to disable that
RetroX01: Hello again
Stow: Ahem, time.*
Escaped: the who list
RetroX01: RetroX01 dusts down his jacket.
Stow: .....showoff.
GamiSB: Jealous.
Escaped: please merv type /pvp
Escaped: since we are not in vector
Phiberglas: I help Zion.
Stow: ......
Stow: You're an arms dealer.
RetroX01: RetroX01 coughs.
RetroX01: We need arms
Stow: You help whoever pays.
Stow: She dealt to Machines yersterday Retro
Stow: We don't need them.
Phiberglas: Phiberglas smiles.
Escaped: we have marketplace
GamiSB: Let her stay, not like it wasn;t going to happen us being out in the open like this.
Escaped: yea
RetroX01: Not like the machines won't turn up soon
Stow: I smell toast already.
Orteko: me 2
Fuscienne: Shouldn't be waiting too much longer.
RetroX01: Let's burn the toast
Dibol: Dibol pulls out a handgun and twirls it.
Stow: Stow backs away from Dibol a bit.
[Team] Michael1: Mathalos is in the area.
[Team] Fuscienne: Visual on him or not?
Dibol: Relax, Stow. Safety's on.
[Team] Michael1: I don't have a visual.
[Team] Michael1: But he is in the area.
Stow: I'm still staying away.
RetroX01: You always got your EJP
Phiberglas: EJP?
[Team] Michael1: I am reading Cypherites too.
Phiberglas: Not EMP?
Orteko: sometin u shouldnt know merv
Escaped: [Faction] Orteko: wow....this merv is pathetic
RetroX01: Offensive only offers so much protection
Phiberglas: It's a new weapon! I haven't got it in my shop.
Sputnik4: Hello, Michael.
SEPET: hi micheal
Stow: Evening sir.
microprocessore: hello Michael
Michael1: Hello Michael.
Fuscienne: Hey there Michael.
Escaped: Gooday Michael
Dibol: Attention!
RetroX01: Hello Sir
Kid: Hey everyone.
Phiberglas: Hello Michael.
GamiSB: Yo
ICableSelect: Hey Michael
Havocide: 'Ello, Kid.
Kid: We've moving this to International.
Phaydren: Evening Micahel
Gerik: Sup
Kontee: hey kid welcome
LuciousBrujah: evening Micheal
RetroX01: I like the shades sir
Kid: Fuscienne will give you the coordinates over secure channels.
Havocide: Nice shades, dude.
Havocide: Hows you feeling today?
Phiberglas: He looks like Neo...
Fuscienne: Let me just relay them to everyone.
Stow: Heh
Stow: Silly merv.
[Team] Fuscienne: Kowloon X407 Y-5 Z384
Orteko: see
[Team] Havocide: Niobe..
Havocide: What a pleasant surprise.
Niobe: Hey.
Xaivier: Well hello Niobe.
LuciousBrujah: evening Niobe
Sputnik4: Hello, Niobe.
[Team] Fuscienne: Michael in there already?
[Team] Havocide: Not yet.
GamiSB: So what's this about?
GamiSB: Don't have all day you know.
Niobe: Yeah, we're all a bit busy.
Fuscienne: Hello there Niobe.
Dibol: Hi there.
ICableSelect: Hi Niobe
Phaydren: Evening Niobe
Escaped: nice
Escaped: nice to see you again Niobe
Serenipidy: friendly bunch eh
Kid: Hey Niobe. Thanks for coming.
Stow: Niobe. It is an honor.
Niobe: Sure. What's up?
RetroX01: Hello Agin Sir
Kid: Just thought we should touch base.
microprocessore: hello Niobe
Kid: We know the Machines are giving you trouble now.
RetroX01: Hello Niobe
Niobe: That's putting it mildly.
Agent (shouting): You're not authorized in this area.
Vengeis: *CENSORED*
Gerik: Hold on.
Stow: Oh boy, here we go.
Kid: Well, I want you to know that if there's any way we can help, we'll be glad to lend a hand.
Escaped: yes
Kid: We'd don't want to see Zion attacked any more than you do.
Escaped: someone be on the lookout for spies listening in
Stow: Like Phiber?
Escaped: who leaked
[Team] shinpseudo: Mathalos is tailing us. Someone's giving up our locations.
Niobe: All right, I appreciate that.
[Team] Fuscienne: It should be secure for a while I hope.
Serenipidy: whats with the black niobe?
Serenipidy: comming over to our side?
Niobe: Born this way.
Stow: IF only we were so lucky.
RetroX01: May aswell acept our help now the machines done the dirty heh
[Team] Michael1: And Ballak.
[Team] GamiSB: It's not hard to find a massive group of people on radar.
Serenipidy: uh i was refering to you clothes
Stow: Heh....she got you Serenipidy.
Niobe: Right now we've got our hands full just trying to keep our operations in the Matrix together.
Niobe: The Machines caught us in the middle of things.
Escaped: how is New Zion coming along Niobe
[Team] Fuscienne: Guess now would be the time to ask Niobe or Kid any of our concerns, before the machines get too hot on us.
GamiSB: So you got something for us to do already I take it?
[Team] Havocide: I need to sleep..sorry.
Niobe: We thought our security revamp after the Cypherite thing was revealed would take care of this kind of scenario, but the Machines seem to be on to something.
[Team] LuciousBrujah: shinpseudo, care to say what the mechs were saying last night
Havocide: Sorry Kid, Need to sleep. Laters all.
[Team] Fuscienne: Take care Havocide.
Escaped: Bye
[Team] Michael1: Take care Havo.
Stow: G'day Havocide. Er, night. I suposse.
[Team] shinpseudo: I've posted what Gray had to say on the Relay. I believe Fuscienne will be posting it as well.
[Team] Fuscienne: Oh yeah, Niobe might not know.
[Team] shinpseudo: Oh you mean...tllher now?
[Team] LuciousBrujah: from what I've heard, Harkee has been informed of last nights mech meeting
[Team] Fuscienne: See if Niobe knows?
[Team] Fuscienne: Yeah.
[Team] shinpseudo: Gotcha.
Niobe: The new city's coming along just fine.
Escaped: are is clear
Escaped: oh good to hear Niobe
Niobe: We've got our hands full moving people in.
shinpseudo: Agent Gray had some interesting things to say last evening. Are you aware of any of that, Niobe?
Phaydren: I take it theres more than the entrance the cyperites stumbled upon, wouldn be good to back yourselves into a corner
Niobe: I skimmed the report.
Stow: Stow looks at shinpseudo oddly.
[Team] GamiSB: Ouch, shin just got told by Niobe.
Niobe: You don't have to worry about that.
[Team] shinpseudo: Whatever, she's still ugly.
[Team] Fuscienne: So short too.
Escaped: do the machines have the ability to drill to New Zion
[Team] Fuscienne: I mean the response there.
[Team] LuciousBrujah: she looked much better in red
[Team] Michael1: Yeah.
[Team] GamiSB: Someone invite SEPET
[Team] shinpseudo: I think she's only 5' 2" anyway.
Stow: What do you think?
Serenipidy: anythings possible in time
Niobe: You'd have to try asking them about that.
Escaped: Escaped uses hyper sense to look for spies.
Stow: Oh, alright. I'll go call Gray.....wait....
[Team] Fuscienne: Well what are they doing about their craft now I wonder.
Escaped: haha
GamiSB: Are you guys going to let EPN in?
Escaped: Escaped chuckles.
Escaped: yes?
RetroX01: Will there be access to porn in the new zion?
Niobe: And here I thought you liked being on the outside.
Stow: ......
Escaped: dude shutup
Escaped: Retro X01 out of line
shinpseudo: I thought you liked having the Oracle around, too. Thank Michael for that.
Stow: Outside is nice, but the jagged ship hulls are annoying.
GamiSB: Oh it's fun and all but sometimes reality can put a cramp on that.
shinpseudo: Now stop dodging the question.
Phaydren: Theres only so many times you can pace around a gangway before you want to feel solid ground beneath you....
Kid: Guys, let's not pressure her about this.
Escaped: yes
RetroX01: Yeah....plus poker nights with the same people gets boring
Kid: We left voluntarily.
Phaydren: True
Stow: The circumstances were rather different then.
Kid: Things have changed now, but they have more security concerns now, too.
GamiSB: Still would be nice to know don't you think?
Escaped: yes with leaks about top priority plans and all
[Team] Fuscienne: Then theres the matter of supplies or weapons right?
Escaped: has Zion taken out the leak in control
Michael1: What about supplies?
Escaped: *CENSORED* agents
Agent (shouting): You're not authorized in this area.
Michael1: We will run out of supplies.
Kid: What about them?
Stow: Run escaped.
Stow: Run.
Agent (shouting): Escape is impossible.
Michael1: Or weapons.
Escaped: help
[Team] GamiSB: Don't think Kid wants us worrying about New Zion from the looks of it
. Kid: That's no more of a problem now than it's ever been.
Escaped: rez
Escaped: thanks dude
[Team] Fuscienne: Yeah, just our own need to hear it.
Stow: But with the increased Machine watches....
Escaped: Zion is here
RetroX01: So your saying we should ignore the threat of Sentinals?
[Team] Fuscienne: Still aiding Zion's the only thing we can do in the meantime.
[Team] Michael1: We run out of supplies right?
Kid: No, of course not.
laurent1: why do agents attack more then usaull
[Team] shinpseudo: Their freedom is due in part to our efforts in the interim. It would be nice to know if the option of New Zion was viable.
[Team] Fuscienne: No we're fine.
Escaped: because of the broken truce
[Team] shinpseudo: But guess we'll find out later.
Stow: We'll go back to our pre-Truce security with supplies, no?
[Team] Fuscienne: Or even just access to there then?
Kid: In fact, I'd like to propose that we help assist Zion ships if we come across them.
Escaped: here we have the Prophets here with us
laurent1: who broke the truce
Sputnik4: I think that is a good idea.
Escaped: Cyphs
[Team] shinpseudo: Kid is awfully statesman-like tonight.
RetroX01: I've always done it anyway....some reject the help others like it
Stow: Agreed.
Agent (shouting): You're not authorized in this area.
Ananchel: And will Zion ships be assisting us when they come across us?
[Team] GamiSB: Thought he just said we "left" Zion
laurent1: if cyphs did it then why do they attack us
odj: *CENSORED* Agents.
Stow: Because Cyphs have an unhappy disposition.
Niobe: I don't have any particular problem with that. Don't come too close to the new city, though, or the defenses will take your unregistered ships down.
Stow: Oh goody....
Serenipidy: charmed im sure
GamiSB: How did a Cypherite ship get so close then?
Escaped: cyphs present
Kid: Ah, thanks for the warning.
Stow: Hacked acce- Damnit
RetroX01: Oh gee thanks.... for the warm welcome
Escaped: outside
shinpseudo: Good. We'll say hello on the way out.
odj: I thought it was a Zion ship that the Cyphs stole?
[Team] Fuscienne: If anyone dropped power like that cypherite ship did, wouldn't anyone get in?
[Team] Fuscienne: Wonder how they got that far.
Niobe: The Cypherite ship was under cover, of course.
[Team] GamiSB: Thts why I asked.
[Team] Fuscienne: Ah.
Niobe: Otherwise they wouldn't have got anywhere near as close as they did.
GamiSB: Gotcha.
Escaped: is this meeting Zion organization set?
Fuscienne: Couldn't anyone do the same again?
Escaped: are there barriers outside
odj: Why did they turn back so quickly is there more defences to New Zion than we know about?
Stow: No, but the deadfall is scary as hell.
RetroX01: Lots of EMPs for when Zion noticed
Phaydren: Another perimiter looks to be in order outised the emp defences, with vocal confirmation. should make it harder for hijacked ships to get close enough to do any damage
Vengeis: got it
Serenipidy: lack of balls one would imagine
Niobe: I'm not going to talk about our security measures here.
Stow: Too unsecure.
Escaped: u shouldnt
Distephano: There are listeners outside.
Gerik: No way!
laurent1: there are some mechs and merve outside the place
Nexus22805: yes way
GamiSB: What about what Zion is going to do now. Your first priority is to secure New Zion but when then? Start moveign agisnt the system?
RetroX01: We shall burn them
odj: Good point Niobe, others may be listening.
Stow: Well these IS a war to fight.
[Team] Fuscienne: Wonder if their stance on limiting awakenings to the same percent still stands.
GamiSB: Always the option to try and make peace Stow.
Voltmeter: So sorry about the disturbance, Captain Niobe.
Niobe: All I'm working on right now is keeping my people alive.
Voltmeter: Thanks for your help, all.
Stow: Yeah....peace.
Niobe: The Machines are all over us. They don't waste time.
Serenipidy: this is a war, and we are soldiers. sacrafices have to be made
laurent1: so are we gonna start a truce
Escaped: nice
Escaped: with what leverage
RetroX01: Finally someone mentions peace instead of war
Stow: How bout a lasting agreement this time? Like exterminating them?
[Team] LuciousBrujah: I'm sure that went out the door as soon as the architect declared war on Zion
Escaped: we wont with our puny forces attack yall
Niobe: You? I don't know what you're going to do.
Phaydren: the only reason we survived the last time was because smith had the machines backed into a corner, it gave neo enough leverage over them to broker the truce, i doubt there going to let that happen again
Kid: Niobe, some of us were discussing taking the offensive.
RetroX01: Apparently we going to rage war ...well thats what most poeple seem to want to do Captain Niobe
Stow: indeed.
[Team] Fuscienne: So just a way to push us off before now.
Duella: Offensive your kiding.
Distephano: The machines were talking of the offensive themselves last night.
Niobe: Oh yeah?
Stow: They have made no attempts to make peace. I doubt they will.
Stow: We had leverage last time. a bargaining chip.
Stow: It won't happen this time.
Voltmeter: How, though? How can we beat the machines without hurting the bluepills? They need the matrix as much as the machines do. Untill they free their minds, anyway.
Kid: Yeah... There's got to be some way to get to them--give them something to think about. Buy you some time, maybe.
laurent1: why dont we just try to make peace with the michine and hope they will acept
Stow: They won't.
Voltmeter: What about The General? The Machines weren't able to catch him - now the Merovingain has him on a leash.
Ananchel: They have no reason to.
Stow: It's not in their best interest.
RetroX01: Blow the power supply lines
Niobe: This guy really one of yours?
Voltmeter: Maybey if we take him out for them, we can get them talking?
RetroX01: Overload the lines coming out of the matrix
Stow: ........
LuciousBrujah: from what I heard last night, Gray said if any machinest encouters a Zion craft that is armed, to shoot it down
Escaped: Machines are trying to enter but we have it locked
Phaydren: I doubt thats an option ,t there probably too well defended and shileded against direct attacks
Niobe: Look, if you decide to go after them, you better know what the hell you're doing.
Distephano: I can verify LuciousBrujah's statement.. we heard him well.
shinpseudo: Saving your *CENSORED*, as usual.
laurent1: so wat are we going to do
Stow: We should definitely NOT make any move unless it's a unified one.
Ananchel: What about a strike against the fields where the Machines grow people for the matrix
RetroX01: Don't worry we don';t have a clue
Kid: I know.
Voltmeter: That would kill innocent humans, Anach.
Escaped: so Captain Niobe what are the Machines forces compared ot ours
Stow: They've probably protected it....don't think they haven't thought of all this.
odj: Vast.
Kid: We're looking into options.
Escaped: get up enough hvcfts
Phaydren: Far greater in number, and posessing a singularity of purpose
Voltmeter: Niobe, what about the Oracle? Have you asked her about this yet?
Escaped: work our way to the source with EMPs
laurent1: do we have anough ppl to fight agianst the michines
Stow: Escaped, they could obliterate our current forces.
Escaped: i think not
Stow: The fact is a straight out assault will not work.
[Team] GamiSB: Michael planning on sticking around after this Fuscienne?
Niobe: No, I haven't had a chance to talk to her.
LuciousBrujah: if you set off a EMP over the fields, it would kill the bluepills
Escaped: well.....
Escaped: this is a way
[Team] Michael1: I have to go. Please post the chat log the chat for me. Good Night.
Voltmeter: Surely we should listen to her advice before acting? We went to all that effort to save her, after all.
Escaped: *war
Escaped: we are soldiers
[Team] shinpseudo: Bye Michael.
Stow: It won't escaped.
Escaped: sacrifices must be made
RetroX01: Sometimes Sacrafices need to be made for the greater goo
Agent (shouting): You're not authorized in this area.
Distephano: Niobe what should we do about Grey's threat to shoot down all armed hovercraft on sight in the real?
Duella: Yes the oracle need to be spoken too.
[Team] Fuscienne: I don't know at the moment.
Agent (shouting): Escape is impossible.
[Team] Fuscienne: Night Michael.
Xaivier: w00t
Escaped: crap didnt mean to
Phaydren: We should respond in kind , in my opinnion
Escaped: Othnin rez?
Halcyon121: I think its obvious. If a machine hovercraft fires on you. Return Fire!
RetroX01: Indeed
Stow: Indeed.
Stow: Damnit.
[Team] Fuscienne: Hello Stack.
Niobe: You'd better make *CENSORED* sure all your pads are fully functional.
Agent (shouting): You're not authorized in this area.
RetroX01: Jinx
Distephano: Of course but we need to go to more spots that the machines dont know about to broadcast in.
Stow: Run like hell
Stow: Run and gun could work
laurent1: we cant fight them can
Escaped: awesome agents are coming in on me when im already dead haha
Escaped: thanks
Escaped: if yall dont think we can fight them we have already lost this war
Phaydren: Its similar to prior to the truce, the machines will cut off aour broadcast spots first.
RetroX01: Niobe do you not trust us? I notice you have been looking around a lot?
Voltmeter: I think she was concerned about the Agent.
Escaped: is that why all the hls ahve been down
RetroX01: She does it when there is no Agent
Stow: A bit fidgity?
Niobe: No offense, but there aren't a whole lot of people I trust right now.
Phaydren: I suggest you recall all of your hover barges niobe, there just big targets for a machine or cypherite ship
Voltmeter: Exactly. An enemy unseen is the most dangerous one.
shinpseudo: None taken.
Stow: None taken.
Stow: Damnit!
shinpseudo: I win.
[Team] GamiSB: I'm offended.
ICableSelect: we understand Niobe
odj: Congrats.
[Team] GamiSB: Hehe.
[Team] Fuscienne: By?
[Team] Stackk: Lagging, sorry.
[Team] GamiSB: Nothing.
[Team] SEPET: ...
Niobe: In fact, I think I'd better get going.
Agent (shouting): You're not authorized in this area.
[Team] Fuscienne: Ah.
Distephano: What do you think the general will make of the current situation? will he exploit it more than usual?
Voltmeter: The Merovingian has him more or less neutralized.
Stow: Awe, come now. HE didn't mean anything by that.
Vengeis: ouch
Stow: STay.
Othinn: The General is under the Merovingian's control.
[Team] Stackk: Did you try teleporting me yet, SEPET?
RetroX01: Bye then, thanks for the warm welcome to New zion
GamiSB: Thanks for the Q and A Niobe.
Phaydren: He is inactive distephanon, the general is on the merovingians leash now
Vengeis: thanks
Escaped: where did she go
RetroX01: We love you to
laurent1: we need to at lease try to make a truce to the michines so they can back of the siolders
Escaped: my bad
Ananchel: Be safe Captain Niobe.
Niobe: The General isn't going to try a *CENSORED* thing if he's smart. He'd get ripped apart by the Machines just as quick as we would.
Distephano: Most animals dont dance to their masters tune Phaydren.
ICableSelect: Yes im sure Sparks is getting worried u being in the Matrix too long Niobe hehe
Phaydren: Safe travel to new zion
Stow: He wouldn't dare show his facew.
Stow: He's not an idiot.
Ananchel: its more than we can say for us..
Stow: Well....mostly
Escaped: i shall escort u Captain Niobe
Kid: Good luck out there, Niobe.
Stow: She'll break your legs Escaped.
Senliten: Sorry if im... late =/
Niobe: Thanks. I'll pass along what you said about helping our ships.
[Team] Fuscienne: If Niobe leaves first, you might be able to have a word with Michael, did you mention something about wanting to Gami?
LuciousBrujah: be aware, there is a large gang of machinest outside just waiting to get at us right now
laurent1: so shall we do
Gerik: Ooh, I'm shaking in my shoes.
laurent1: so wat shall we do
Nexus22805: Lets get them
RetroX01: A little, didnt miss much just a nice "Get to close we will shoot you to " greeting
[Team] GamiSB: Not yet. I'll leave a message though.
Kid: Great. If there's anything else we can do, let us know.
Distephano: I think we should take the NW hardline to avoid interference.
Stow: Eek, toaster rally!
Senliten: ... i wont fight em less they pnch me first
Nexus22805: All for one for all
[Team] Fuscienne: Alright.
Niobe: Thanks.
Niobe: I'd better get going.
Stow: Niobe. Good luck.
Sputnik4: See you, Niobe. Take care.
Voltmeter: Be safe, Captain.
ICableSelect: Take it easy Niobe
Nexus22805: Good luck Niobe
laurent1: good luck
Fuscienne: Take care Niobe.
shinpseudo: Yes, bye.
RetroX01: Don't let the door hit you on the way out Niobe
Distephano: Be safe Cap'
Niobe: Thanks guys. We appreciate your support.
Escaped: all clear this way
[Team] GamiSB: MEssage sent.
Stow: Good luck Michael.
Nexus22805: No problem thats what we are here for
Senliten: Boo LB.. =P
laurent1: kid do you think its going to work
Kid: Think what's gonna work?
Senliten: ...bah spotted =p
Serenipidy: micheal im scared these times are so dangerous
laurent1: the plan
Stow: I think I'll stay here till the Toasters are gone.
Kid: We always knew this was dangerous.
Stow: But it's worth it.
Senliten: .....
Senliten: Senliten ducks and covers.
Kid: Exactly.
RetroX01: Yes, however some people want a suicide mission
laurent1: so were did captain niobe go
Serenipidy: yes but now we face more than we have seen before
Senliten: I say help those who think suicide the only way.. Put them in mental inst
Stow: Home.
Stow: An attack is not suicde.
Serenipidy: sure youve been in this situation before but we havent
Stow: suicide*
GamiSB: Michael are we looking to destory the Machine or just shut it down from enslaveing us?
Stow: if Executed correctly
Voltmeter: What exactly do *you* want, Kid? You left Zion because you thought you knew better. But you came back to us in our time of need. What now?
Senliten: Machine as in.... the source?
laurent1: can we really risk war
Stow: I think so.
Kid: We'll do what we have to do to free humanity from the Machines.
Stow: We've done it, what, six times now?
Serenipidy: but at what cost?
Voltmeter: We've been wiped out six times, Stow.
Vengeis: kid, any new word on neo?
Stow: 5 times.
Serenipidy: a hundered lives?
Stow: Remember that
Serenipidy: a hundred thousand?
Stow: 6 wars, 5 defeats. All is not lost.
laurent1: 1 million
Serenipidy: how far are you willing to take us?
Senliten: tot he core?
LuciousBrujah: the machines have destroyed Zion 6 times, but Neo stopped it from happening for a 7th
Stow: I'm willing to go all the way
Kid: I don't think you can set a price on freedom.
RetroX01: Do you really consider the last one anything but a loss aside from Neo?
Ananchel: No Victories either Stow, we must be careful not to make the wrong move
Stow: No Lucious, that WOULD have been the sixth time.
Voltmeter: Eh, the point is we've lost several times, and have one stalemate. No victories.
Stow: Still not a loss.
Serenipidy: so if the price was the cost of every one in the pods is it a price youd pay?
Kid: We see from the Machine reaction to Zion just moving out of range of the Sentinels how very badly they want to take it from us.
Stow: Against such odds, its no small matter.
GamiSB: 100 lives for one?
Senliten: =/ i beive that would not be good
Stow: They want us dead, or atleast under their thumbs completely.
Stow: This is not a way to live, always in fear.
Kid: It hasn't come to that yet, and I hope it never does.
Senliten: ^_^
GamiSB: But if we are moveing to shut down the system it will.
laurent1: why dont we set up a trap
GamiSB: There are billions attached to it that would die if we shut them down.
Voltmeter: I suppose outright victory is possible - if we use pre-Cypherist Cryptos's plan to nuke the matrix. It'd be horrible, but it'd end this.
Kid: There's got to be a way, and we'll find it.
Stow: No.
Serenipidy: i guess its a matter of weighing lives against potential lives under freedom
Kid: We can't just sit back and do nothing.
Stow: Sacrificing all those lives is not worth it.
Phaydren: That was a bit too extreem of a solution
Senliten: Yes but killing doesnt solve anything now.. does it?
laurent1: why dont we get as menny ppl we can get out of the system
Stow: Crypto was a nut.
Stow: Always.
GamiSB: Of course, just Neo saved us and them for a reason. We can't just focus on us when he didn't. He wouldn't want us to.
Stow: We've been trying that for years laurent
Voltmeter: Then be prepared for a long war - so long as the Machines exist, Blues will too.
Serenipidy: if the solution was the destruction of the matrix it self we could rebuild but its a terribly high price
Stow: Exactly.
Stackk: We must focus on freeing humanity, not simply destroying the Matrix.
RetroX01: To hight a price
Stow: They need to be considered
Stow: What if you were one of them?
Stow: Think about that.
laurent1: why dont we shut down the michine boss
Voltmeter: But Stackk, only one percent or so of blues would choose to awaken. Then we're back to where we started.
Senliten: Nah the bosss is affraid soive heard
Voltmeter: You think they actually have Off switches, laurent? Cute.
Stow: Wait, they don't?
Stow: Thats news to me.
Stackk: One percent naturally has an inclination toward freedom. With effort, I'm sure we could free more than that.
laurent1: well every michane has a off switch right
Voltmeter: Then it would be an unnatural freedom, by that logic.
Senliten: or a stop program
Stow: Make them aware doesn't mean they'll accept it Stakk
Kid: I was one of them. My parents are some of them. Almost all of us here have loved ones still plugged into the pods.
Senliten: ....
Senliten: hes right....
Stow: Most, but not all. And those that don't can't know what it's like.
Kid: I don't think it's that hard to imagine. We all have things we don't want to lose.
Voltmeter: Look at what happens wen we awaken those that weren't ready - Cypherites. Anome.... we'd pay a heavy price.
laurent1: so do we have any option
RetroX01: If they are not one of us they are apart of the System
Stow: There are always options.
Senliten: Hmm...
Senliten: Senliten thinks.
Stow: The trick is knowing which is the right one.
Kid: But I'll be damned if I'm going to sit around and do nothing while my family are slaves to machines.
laurent1: this is like a ultumate puzzle
Senliten: for every program made there is or must be a off type switch... so how bout a virus od some sort
Voltmeter: Have you offered them the choice, Michael?
Senliten: to conflict the mechs to say to turn off
Kid: My parents are not a top priority for awakening right now.
Stow: Haigen incoming.
RetroX01: The only thing that would solveour problem is to send a feedback down the power cables. So the Matrix stays on but we cut the Machines power
Stow: They would regect it most likely.
Stow: reject*
GamiSB: But are we going to throw it all away to shut them down? This is our time to prove were not just a bunch of Neo fanboys and actully work towards what he wanted. Peace.
RetroX01: Then slowly free everyone, as we get them used to the idea
LuciousBrujah: will we someday be able to fight and beat a agent Micheal, or will they always be more powerful here?
Senliten: How bout a feedbakc virus.. i know virus's are more likely not a good thing but may be useful
Voltmeter: Even still, unless they choose to leave, then they aren't slaves, are they? Slavery is a forced condition. If one chooses that life, it's not forced. Sad, but most of our species chooses Blue.
laurent1: why dont we launch a virus in the system
Voltmeter: To do what?
Senliten: Well that would equire a bit of manual work
Stow: Because they can route it.
Stow: Get rid of it.,
Stow: They happen to be very smart.
Kid: Chooses? What? They don't even know there is a choice.
Phaydren: or turn it against us
Voltmeter: Exactly.
Kid: That's what we're trying to give them--everyone.
Agent (shouting): You're not authorized in this area.
Senliten: one thing mechs cant turn against us is our own hearts
Stow: Thats, what, 4?
Voltmeter: They don't become aware of a need too choose - they're happy not knowing in most cases.
laurent1: why dont we make a stand ageanst the mechs
Stow: They will KILL us Laurent.
Stow: A direct attack will end badly
Stow: Very.
Kid: Happy? No, I refuse to believe that.
laurent1: oh ya
Senliten: Senliten agrees.
Kid: Ignorance is *not* bliss. It's slavery of the mind.
odj: I thought they had a choice sub-consiously?
RetroX01: They think they are Happy, they are fed emotions
Voltmeter: So then, you mean that the Blues have no sense of happiness in here?
Stow: Thats machinist bull.
Stow: Subconscious choice my *CENSORED*.
laurent1: theres got to be a way to slove this
laurent1: solve this
Voltmeter: You're putting words in my mouth. I'm saying - a hell of a lot of Blues seem happy where they are.
Stow: There is.
Senliten: Senliten thinks.
Stow: There always is.
Kid: I think so, too. And we're going to find it.
Fuscienne: Seem being the key word.
Senliten: Lightbulb
LuciousBrujah: thats because they don't know they are slaves to the system
Stow: Seem and are are two VERY different things
Senliten: Wat if no there must be a way to go or get to the direct soruce of a mech
Fuscienne: Exactly, and they don't know.
Voltmeter: Kid, learn Anome's lesson. He thought the Blues were by nature, incapable of suffering. Don't think they aren't capable of happiness. They're better off knownign the truth - but they have to choose that for themselves.
laurent1: why dont we try to attack there defenses without hurting the blue pills
Phaydren: The problem as neo so rightly put it, is choice
Senliten: Nah.. i would not hurt one to harm the other
Phaydren: Or in this case lack therof
Kid: That's certainly what we're going to try to do.
Stow: How is the question.
Senliten: I still say there can be a backdoor beyond the white halls that can show a way.. maybe even to you know whoms lil place
Senliten: not Neo's but the creator
Voltmeter: To what end, Senliten?
Agent (shouting): You're not authorized in this area.
laurent1: why dont we try to capture a setnel and turn it against the mechs and send it back to look for clues
Agent (shouting): You're not authorized in this area.
Voltmeter: Killing the Architect would solve nothing - if anything it would just endanger innocents.
Phaydren: Even if you cut off the head of this beast, two more will rise to its place
Senliten: I didnt say kill
Stow: OR steal one of the Generals
Voltmeter: I don't suppose there's a medic in the building?
Senliten: more like show him the truth of some sort
Kid: We know very little about the real workings of the System right now, even with data we've gathered from pulse devices.
Senliten: =/
Senliten: darn
Voltmeter: It doesn't work that way. Machines aren't like humans. They won't belive anything you say, ever.
Senliten: Senliten throws the idea out the widnow.
Kid: But I believe the information we need to end this war is out there--hidden in the Machine systems.
Stow: They aren't reasonable.
Senliten: Mech city maybe?
Stow: 01?
Stow: Hm
Kid: Maybe.
Voltmeter: They aren't human, Stow. Don't try and think of them in human terms.
Senliten: how bout the task master
Stow: What about Deus Ex itself?
Senliten: try and find odd data off of it
Phaydren: Nobody bartwo have ever been within a hundred miles of the machine city sine the beginig of the war
Voltmeter: And none have come back alive.
Stow: Neo and Trinity
Stow: And the Osiris
Kid: I don't know. That's just it--nobody knows. We've only heard stories and rumors.
Senliten: only the truth is in the eye of the beolder sorta speak
laurent1: wat about a probe
Senliten: nah better be a stealth kind
Phaydren: All we know for certain is that the night smith was defeated Trinity and Neo both left for 01
Voltmeter: Probe? What is this, a bad scifi movie?
Kid: We don't even know about their physical defenses.
Senliten: I say the answer lays withing 01
Stow: We know something
Kid: What's that?
Vengeis: yea we do know something... weve all watched the movies lol
Senliten: maybe its outskirts or maybe the junk around there
Stow: Large, floating, bomb- hurling crafts.
Stow: Yeah, not that useful
LuciousBrujah: someone said how about capturing a sentinel, maybe we could, then reprogram it to do our recon for us
Stow: But atleast we know what to expect.
Voltmeter: Unlikely, Lucious. The Machines know about renegade sentinels now. They'd be looking for them.
Vengeis: yea i like that capture a sent. idea
Stow: I think the machines would notice, to be honest.
Phaydren: I doubt that would work, the machines have since upgraded your standard squiddie since the general went rouge
Kid: Maybe. But maybe they've upgraded in the past two years.
Senliten: two years
Stackk: It's been tried in the past. Emphasis on "tried."
Kid: Zion didn't sit on their thumbs, and we can't expect that the Machines did, either.
Voltmeter: ... I have an Idea.
Stow: They were bulding
Stow: They are likely building again
Kid: We already saw that they doubled the number of Sentinels watching Zion during that time.
Stow: What is it Volt?
Voltmeter: If it's information we need, why go about getting it ourselves? There are plenty of Exiles who could get us intel from the Machine side of things. And they all have a price.
Phaydren: For all we know they could have found a way to harnes the nanites in the darkstorm clouds into a weapon...
Senliten: =/
Senliten: not good there
Senliten: nanites = humans worse enemy
laurent1: thats it the sky
Stow: Cloud weapons? You watch too much Sci-Fi
Ananchel: Yes but we dont know they will feed us good info, and we can ill afford to act upon the bad variety
Stow: Indeed.
Stow: Bad inte l taken without a grain of salt will get us all killed.
Voltmeter: Hmph. Darkstorm was our biggest mistake of all time. If it weren't for that, there would be not matrix.
Voltmeter: *no matrix
Phaydren: Unfortunatly stow teh sky isint permanantly dark because of global warming, thoes clouds are suspended nanaites
Ananchel: if it werent for the matrix there would be no humans
Ananchel: be careful what you wish for
Senliten: =/
Voltmeter: You missed my point, anach.
Stow: They would have exterminated us
Ananchel: and you mine
laurent1: the sky remeber the setnels die in the storm so if we could build a probe to go over the sky and infeltrate there defeses
Voltmeter: Ah, I see.
Senliten: Well i sem to see we all have ideas... Kid or Michale.. did you have any
Phaydren: nanites would shread it before it broke the cloud tops
Stackk: The sky would also destroy any probe sent through it....
Voltmeter: I suppose then, our biggest mistake was inventing the Machines in the first place.
Stow: Not inventing them
Stow: Enslaving them.
Stow: THAT was our biggest mistake.
Fuscienne: It'll be theirs too then?
Stow: Denying them rights when they were nearly as human as us was a close second.
Ananchel: Indeed
Stow: We can only hope Fuscienne
Kid: We've got a lot of ideas kicking around right now. There's a lot of things we need to look into, and some we're looking into already.
Fuscienne: In time.
Senliten: ^_^
laurent1: or we can build on to go underground
Senliten: works fast i likeie
GamiSB: What can we do to speed them along?
Stow: Maybe we should get our priorities in line first
Stow: New Zion.
Stow: Wasn't that what this was about?
Stow: Before we think about the Machines and a war, we should consider them.
Phaydren: Michael, would it be possible to rig a small ship to carry an emp charge towards the machine city ?
Stow: Thye'd detectr it
GamiSB: We did Stow that was what Niobe was here for.
Phaydren: thought so, but worth a try
laurent1: no because it would kill the blue pills
Stow: But what do we know for sure now?
Ananchel: We should consider only the fact they ask us to fight for them, die for them but not be safe within their walls when we are assailed.
Phaydren: the fields are hundreds of miles from the city itself
Ananchel: all of the risk with no reward
Kid: We know that Zion welcomes our help.
Kid: We can assist their ships. Show them how to avoid Sentinel patrols.
Ananchel: but does not welcome the people who give it
Stackk: Why do they not welcome our ships, then?
Stackk: In the dock, I mean.
Kid: I think we have to cut them some slack there.
Voltmeter: You left when it was convienient, Stackk. Just because you want to help now doesn't erase that.
Stow: Because they need to be cautious
Stow: they were infiltrated once.
Kid: They're pretty paranoid about security, and with good reason.
Stow: Bingo.
Stow: They have a right to be paranoid at this point.
Stackk: So are we.
Senliten: im not paranoid
Voltmeter: With due respect, you guys do have a way of attractig Cypherite attention.
Kid: Yeah, well, that's why we're not in a city to begin with.
laurent1: why dont we clone a setenal
Stow: ......Clone?
Senliten: cloning is archaic
Senliten: so i thoguht
laurent1: make one
Voltmeter: You can't clone a machine. Clones are genetic copies of animals.
Stow: Doesn't something have to be alive to be cloned?
Voltmeter: What is life, for that matter?
laurent1: or make one
Stow: Indeed.
Kid: Okay, I know we've all got things to do.
Phaydren: again it wont work, you would need acess codes from a real sentinal, and the machines would probably detect the diffrences in programing
Stow: How are the machines fake and we're not?
Kid: Take care out there, everyone.
Stow: You too.
Senliten: mmm you to
laurent1: later
SEPET: hail kid
Phaydren: Travel safley
Ananchel: Be safe Kid
shinpseudo: Take care Michael.
Stackk: You too, sir.
Stow: Good luck Michael.
IMarz: Thanks for your time, Michael.
Voltmeter: Watch your back, Kid.
Vengeis: later bro
Senliten: But i still say for every front theres a back door
Stow: it's been an honor.
Othinn: Good job protecting the Oracle, Kid. I'm impressed.
Fuscienne: You too Michael, see you soon.
Sputnik4: Thank you, Michael. Take care.
LuciousBrujah: thank you for meeting with us Michael
Senliten: ^_^
LuciousBrujah: take care and stay safe, may Neo watch over you
Kid: Thanks, guys. You too.
Senliten: LB dont take the front door mechs outside
Senliten: i say rooftop
LuciousBrujah: pfft, I'll take the back door
Fuscienne: Roofs sealed?
Senliten: =/
Stackk: I say take the front door and give them hell.
Stow: I'm going out the front door.
Stow: Damnit Stack
Shinryu: Greetings, Terrorist...
Stow: Ello, toaster.
Shinryu: *sighs*
Othinn: There's no need to fight!
Kid: Hi, fellas.
Shinryu: When are you guys going to get that right
Stow: Ok, ok
Stow: Toaster sympathiser.
shinpseudo: We're at war. Let's drop these tools.
BigNorth: Sympathiser?
Senliten: Kid plz take care
Stow: Forgive my spelling.
Stow: It's a bit....late.
Othinn: How about no one sinks to the other's level and go in peace?
HostileIntention: Further presence in this sector is forbidden, jack out immediately.
Kid: I'm not the one who's in trouble right now.